diff --git a/keystoneclient/base.py b/keystoneclient/base.py
index 77e6108f..be8551f5 100644
--- a/keystoneclient/base.py
+++ b/keystoneclient/base.py
@@ -88,7 +88,7 @@ class Manager(object):
         resp, body = self.api.post(url, body=body)
         if return_raw:
             return body[response_key]
-        return self.resource_class(self, body[response_key], loaded=True)
+        return self.resource_class(self, body[response_key])
 
     def _delete(self, url):
         resp, body = self.api.delete(url)
@@ -107,7 +107,7 @@ class Manager(object):
                                              % method)
         # PUT requests may not return a body
         if body:
-            return self.resource_class(self, body[response_key], loaded=True)
+            return self.resource_class(self, body[response_key])
 
 
 class ManagerWithFind(Manager):